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PLUS+1 Update Center / Re: Update Center don't work V1.0.190
« Last post by Tor on July 08, 2026, 09:28:33 AM »
Hello Spark2u,

This issue is, as far as I know, fixed with version 1.0.192 of Update Center.
You can ask the customer to log in to the https://my.danfoss.com/ page.  If that works there might be other IT issues.

If the customer still have issues, please ask him to contact PLUS+1 Helpdesk, https://www.danfoss.com/en/campaigns/dps/plusplus1-support-form/.


Have a nice day.
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PLUS+1 Update Center / Re: Update Center don't work V1.0.190
« Last post by Spark2u on July 08, 2026, 04:12:02 AM »
I am working with customers with strict firewalls. They need Service tool 2026.1. They install update center. They choose the file to update, hit install. It then forces them to log in. They get the congrats, but link not working error like described here. You state there is an update coming, but how could they install an update if they can't log in? You mention the work around. When you log in, there is an error. The desktop software has not logged in, when you close the congratulations screen, the background updater icon closes because it's not authorized. It was not logged in? It's like being told you can't get in the house because your key needs to be replaced by the new key in the house. Go in the locked house to get the new key? They did submit a request. Hopefully there is some fix other than this description?
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Thanks for that. Apparently my inspector was hiding and once I enabled it a lightbulb came on in my head. Guess I got stuck in some tunnel vision. :)
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It's likely undefined as you have not defined it in your new program right ?

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Hello.

I recently got a JS1-H PWM joystick. It did not come straight from Danfoss since my client was very tight on time and we had to resort to finding a joystick from OEM instead of Danfoss. I had already prepared the Plus1+ Guide program for it and compiled it, I used the built in template as a starting point.
It was written in 2025.3 version and when I tried uploading the .LHX file this morning I got an error of mismatch. first image named Service_tool

So I updated everything to version 2026.1, updated the HWD in the project and when uploading the compiled code from that I get the same issue. (See picture called guide)

Tried creating a new project and using the template file and same results. Does anyone have an idea why I'm getting "(undefined)" on the new LHS despite it being created from a template for the JS1-H PWM?

Is it because of bootloader version mismatch, but why the "(undefined)" ? (see picture Comparison)


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General controls / Re: Caterpillar C32 Torque limiting
« Last post by pinias on June 29, 2026, 08:50:25 PM »
Hi Mike,

all that sounds great!!

here is the thing, as you describe your machine work pattern, it sounds like a kind of Fuzzy logic will suit better the application.

just as a brief comment, fuzzy logic is based on heuristic rules, it gets the inputs and finds out the output based on heuristic rules.

PID controls requieres a good understanding of math, fuzzy logic not really. what matter is your knowledge base

Fuzzy logic is been proven to be effective in cases like yours where math models are difficult to get.

personally I have done some FUZZY controls for electric racing cars, it did work just fine

it may be worth for you to do some research on that.

Regards
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General controls / Re: Caterpillar C32 Torque limiting
« Last post by Mike AA on June 25, 2026, 08:56:21 PM »
I will try to answer some questions and give more information that we have learned in the last few weeks.

Currently we decided to use math and my current control of individually controling the throttles and watch the loads and adjust by a step, in a stime period with a window, all values we can change on the display to tune the loading. On 2 machines now this is working really well.

To Clarify, the 4 CAT C32 are each hooked to a 5 speed transmission which then outputs to a gearbox that combines their inputs to 1 output. The gearbox is huge and requires two pieces of equipment or a very large excavator to unload and attach to the machine.

I am using a bunch of Danfoss controllers and IO to do this just due to how and where we are controlling everything. In the cab drive console I have a 24pin IO module reading the throttle knobs, in the electrical panel I have a MC090-10 which handles all the hydrostats, and a bunch of pressure transducers for the rest of the machine. On each pod is a MC050-118, a little over kill because we aren't recording any telemetry but we are using that on other stuff so it was simpler to keep using a computer we had on hand, plus it has enough outputs for the fuel, start and area light relays plus the 5 speed transmission coils. This MC050-118 takes my commands off the canbus and converts to what the CAT ECM needs for throttle and start and also relays engine info back to the cab displays.

We are inventing our own setup, nobody currently does what we do.

My initial PID ramped everything up and didn't adjust anything politely to say the lease. The new program we just threw on the second machine today is a very simplified version of a PID. We have the Position 1 load as the feedback and adjust 2,3,4 accordingly.

I am a jack of all trades, Electrician, Electronics, Computer programmer, Mechanic, Mechanical, Plumbing, Construction. When I work on our machines and anything with company or life or friends I help and can do virtually everything. Went to school for 1.5 years for electrical engineering, failed Chemistry and Calculus twice and lost my grant money. Got a full time job to make money and kept up my hobbies and experience doing electrical and programming to be where I am today.

Unfortunately the processes we run and materials we run every day, every foot of trench could be different than the next so there is not one load we always see. Today watching the feedback remotely I watched the load go from 35-45 for hours then up to 45-55 for a little while then back down to 30-35 until I lost connection. We have been able to keep the loads within 10% load of the master poisition 1 load.

Thanks for the feedback and questions and hopefully I answered your questions to make things make sense.

Mike




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General controls / Re: Caterpillar C32 Torque limiting
« Last post by pinias on June 13, 2026, 02:00:34 AM »
Hi Mike,

what is your background? I mean are you just electronic guy, mechatronic guy or just mechanic guy.

I am mechanical engineer with a master in electronics, if I would have to do something like that I will be monitoring the load percent of each engine.

that will be my 4 inputs, without any fancy control I just will find out the average load then just work on each engine to get that load, imagine a 3Phase incoming power the phases need to be balanced.

the picture attached shows the torque limit curve for the C7 to C32 CAT engines...from that you can said that the RPM´s will be between 1300 to 1800 RPM to be in the valid zone for torque limit, which makes sense.

it looks like just getting the average load then adjust RPM´s to get the loads evenly taking care of maximum or minimum RPM allowed is all what you need to do.

I hope this help

 :D





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General controls / Re: Caterpillar C32 Torque limiting
« Last post by Lukey on June 12, 2026, 04:07:05 AM »
How does the gearbox work? does it require the same RPM from all engines or can they vary independently? the way i read your description it seems like they can vary.

Curious how did your initial PID work? 1PID or 4 (each engine)?
What's the setpoint, feedback and what is the output you were using.

From the information you've given my starting point would be to try having 4 independent PIDs, 1 for each motor.
The setpoint is your desired load/rpm/torque, feedback is that from the individual motor and the output is the throttle to that motor.
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General controls / Re: Caterpillar C32 Torque limiting
« Last post by samuelhj on June 11, 2026, 09:48:56 PM »
My first question would be, what are you using for feedback from the CAT?

As if I understand correct, you are interfacing the CAT's ECU via CAN bus which is reasonable, but keep in mind that the engine's ECU will have some ways to make sure the engine doesn't stall under load.

If you're running ALL four engines through a 4 to 1 gearbox, it means ALL engines will need some kind of feedback for adjusting what the output is. This is extremely time sensitive task you're doing. Especially not knowing what kind of load balancing gearbox you're using, this is going to be a whole new level of a headache.

However, you say that it works fine with tuning each engine for that precise load. While probably not good for neither the engines nor the gearbox this probably works for some time, but the whole system is still going to be under stress I'd assume. With a bit of a disclaimer I haven't seen the schematics for this and have no idea what type of gearbox you are using for this application, but marine applications use double input gears quite a lot so I'm sure there is a good solution to that part of the problem, which you've already found, at least the gearbox.

What Danfoss controller are you using for this application? And what does the plus1+ guide part for the engine control look like, roughly?

And last question, are you replacing an older controller with a new one? Or inventing this solution on your own? That's kiiiiind of important.

If you want, you can DM me some pictures of the setup and I can take a glance at it. This sounds like an interesting problem to solve.

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