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Offline pinias

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MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« on: February 20, 2017, 10:30:47 PM »
Hello there,

it seems that the MC050-010 is obsolete,now my problem is that I have a bunch of machines with the MC050-010...

according with Danfoss MC050-110 is a direct replacement, but that is not all true, right?

it is a direct replacement as per pin assigments  but as per firmware it is not.

Now the question is, has anyone tried to replace the harwdare template for a controller or display with a different one?

I mean you have your firmware for a MC050-010 controller now you need to make that firmware compatible with a MC050-110 is any way to replace just the template? 

in a controller after all you can copy most of the firmware but since Danfoss says it is a direct replacement i guess there is way to do it

I appreciate any feedback about

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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 12:00:42 AM »
Hi Pinias,

It's actually really simple.  If you just want to use the new hardware without the new features of the MC050-110, you can open your 010 application and drag the MC050-110/112-0_lg (legacy) sys file from hardware tab and place onto your projects .sys file, recompile and you are done.

One of the bonus's of using the new 110 is FRAM where you don't have to worry about EEPROM write cycles :)

Cheers,

John.

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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2017, 03:40:17 PM »
I've also converted without any issues... just have to recompile and you're good-to-go.

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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2017, 06:26:44 PM »
Just make sure you correctly identify your *.lhx files so you know which files can be downloaded on which hardware.

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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 11:58:28 AM »
Hi Pinias!

The need for a midlife upgrade of our microcontrollers were communicated already in 2013, with a release of the new MC0XX-1XX hardware, and in 2015 the End-of-life with instructions on what was needed for a conversion. Both times through a PIB that has been sent out to all customers buying any of the affected part numbers. There are three different HWD's for MC050-110;

nl = One that is used to unleash the full potential of the new hardware that supports new symbols, naming conventions etc. and should be the base in new projects.
lg = One that supports applications with old-style naming conventions to be able to re-compile MC0XX-0XX applications without changes.
os = One that supports old CAN and EEPROM symbols.

It is as simple as the guys are mentioning;
  • change HWD in your application
  • recompile your application
  • download your application to a new unit to test and validate the application
and you are done!

If you are experiencing any issues during your conversion we at Helpdesk are happy to help at plus1helpdesk@danfoss.com!

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Nilla
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« Last Edit: March 01, 2017, 01:10:38 PM by Nilla »

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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 11:15:14 AM »
Please also check level on input pins.
If they are critical, you may have problems.
The thresholds are a little different.
We have had an application and the voltage levels were critical and by using MC050-010 we have had luck - it works.
By using MC050-100 our hardware produced error at the inputs:
We have send impulses to input pin and the voltage level was to high and some pulses were not counted.
So we optimized our hardware and MC050-100 worked well.

If your hardware-design is critical every change in hardware and software can produce errors!
So, check for good design everytime!
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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 04:47:20 PM »
Alright Guys,


Thanks for the answers, for some reason our vendor never give us the news about the MC050-010 end of production..(since 2013)

we just learn in the hard way...


Thanks again

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Re: MC050-010 OBSOLETE
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 06:50:02 PM »
Be Careful,
Different Hardware migrations use different migration files.  The comments below apply to some hardware, but not others.  Check the Readme files to find out which.  Specifically, some of the Displays are different.

nl = One that is used to unleash the full potential of the new hardware that supports new symbols, naming conventions etc. and should be the base in new projects.
lg = One that supports applications with old-style naming conventions to be able to re-compile MC0XX-0XX applications without changes.
os = One that supports old CAN and EEPROM symbols